I'm not renowned for being afraid of that kind of thing, Huw.[Laughter.] So, I don't think I'll start any time soon. 

By 'taking them with us', I mean making sure that everyone fully understands the implications of what we're proposing and doesn't regard them as a negative to be fought, but actually as something to get on board with to enhance their own particular economic status and actually their own particular need to have the seas and their coastal communities be the way we'd all like them to be. So, I'm sure we can get those stakeholders on board. It's not just fishermen either; it’s a lot of other people that we need to talk to. Lots of fisherfolk have a full appreciation of this.

And then, just to accelerate, as the Deputy Llywydd is going to cut me off in my prime otherwise, events in Ukraine have clearly reinforced the need for a resilient energy supply, and green energy is clearly a hugely important part of that. I was delighted that the committee recognised our efforts in addressing the barriers to that development.

We’re also commissioning an independent review of the marine licensing process, as part of the deep dive follow-up, to improve the customer experience, ensuring works progress as effectively as they can, that it's agile for future demand. The review is under way. Part of that review is to make sure that, in deploying marine energy, we actually get cameras and so on out there to get the data that we need live on the ground so that we can continue to replenish our data source, rather than waiting until we've got it until we can do anything. So, I’m really keen to do that; happy to update Members as that goes ahead.

The next revision of the marine evidence strategy will set out how we can work even closer with the industry to make those kinds of provisions very much part of the licensing regime and make sure that the existing evidence is improved through data sharing. Huw Irranca and a number of other Members highlighted the need for that kind of data sharing all the way through. That robust evidence is critical to our planned strategies and policy decisions and I absolutely accept that action is needed to improve that evidence base. Just to be really clear, Llyr, we absolutely do accept that. We’re not complacent in any way. We’re working with a range of partners to identify and fill the evidence gaps that we know exist.

We have marine protected areas—139 of them; 50 per cent of all Welsh waters—long-term frameworks in place. The UK marine strategy and nature networks programme are important tools for understanding this as well. But, as Joyce Watson and others highlighted: what does that mean? The deep dive will be looking at that with me: what does it mean, a 'marine protected area'? What can you do and not do?

I’m also doing the deep dive overall. Thirty per cent of our land and sea by 2030 should be in good condition. We had a discussion during questions earlier on that Delyth started on that, and I think we’re all in the same place there.

We are supporting the MPA network with a management framework supported grant scheme, which includes blue carbon potential, climate change on protected features and a bilingual app called Wales Coast Explorer to inform and help plan visits to the marine environment. I've also allocated budget to fund five actions this year, including the development of citizen science programmes to help identify non-native species and further research to understand pressures the network faces, particularly marine litter, particularly plastic pollution. I hope many of you are doing the Big Plastic Count that's under way at the moment—I certainly am. We want to be—. Following the success of the first year collecting recycling—1.2 tonnes of end-of-life fishing gear; extraordinary success—we want to continue that scheme and spread it out to all the ports in Wales as fast as we possibly can. It reduces the risk of gear lost at sea potentially harming the environment, and we've all seen the terrible photographs of wildlife caught up in that. 

We absolutely agree as well that we want to accelerate the review of so-called bottom trawling. That's clearly fundamental and I'm not putting that off at all; I absolutely see the need for that. And that will be part of this issue about what can you or can't you do in particular bits of the sea and so on. We'll also be setting out ambitions for a marine conservation zone designation process as part of the MPA network—again, what does that mean, how does it enhance resilience?

And then, turning just lastly, Dirprwy Lywydd—I know I'm testing your patience—