7. Plaid Cymru Debate: Post-Brexit funding

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:40 pm on 25 May 2022.

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Photo of Paul Davies Paul Davies Conservative 4:40, 25 May 2022

Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. I move the amendment tabled in the name of my colleague Darren Millar. Members will be aware that the Finance Committee is looking at post-EU funding and, as I've said before, the Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee will probably look at this matter later on this year, after the Finance Committee has concluded its inquiry. Of course, the effective delivery of funding post Brexit is vital, particularly at a time when the cost of living is rising and everything from food to fuel to energy is costing households more and more. 

We know that EU structural funds were integral in supporting programmes to tackle deprivation, and I think that's a really important point. We're not solely talking about strategic infrastructure projects, but, in many cases, local community projects that have a huge impact on how people live in their communities. I know that in my own constituency, EU funding has been used to deliver business support programmes, apprenticeships, tourism projects and environmental schemes. Therefore, as I've said before in this Chamber, it's so important that Wales does not lose out on that funding going forward, so that projects can continue to make a real difference in our communities. 

Our amendment today reaffirms the UK Government's repeated statements that Wales will not lose out on funding, and I, like Members right across this Chamber, will continue to push for this to be the case. The UK Government have said that previous EU programmes would be ramped up and ramped down, and that its funding commitment would be met by a combination of EU funds from the 2014-20 programme and investment through the shared prosperity fund. Indeed, the level of funding was raised with experts in a recent Finance Committee meeting. I believe it was Guto Ifan from the Wales Governance Centre who explained, and I quote:

'both Governments are making different claims based on quite different assumptions about the allocations and spending. So, there's that, and then there's the issue of publicly available data on how much legacy funding we have. We don't really know what would have happened to EU funding in terms of the building up, if we had a new funding programme period. And, of course, we don't know what happens to the shared prosperity fund after 2024-25, which I think you'd need to properly compare for a complete picture of a comparison with previous EU funding.'

Therefore, it is clear that more transparency is needed from both Governments on the figures they've already published. I want to be clear that the UK Government should provide more clarity over its allocation for Wales, but the Welsh Government shouldn't be left off the hook either. Whilst the Welsh Government has released some figures, it hasn't accounted for EU legacy funding, or how much funding is coming from the EU, or making that distinction between allocations and actual spending, as was highlighted in that recent Finance Committee session. 

Our amendment also recognises the commitment of the UK Government to empower local communities in Wales via the levelling-up agenda and the shared prosperity fund. While some might not like it, the reality is that Wales has two Governments, and the direct funding to local authorities serves to highlight the UK Government's commitment to devolving power to councils who are best placed to deliver this funding. As I've said before—[Interruption.]—we've just seen how resilient our local authorities have been during the pandemic, and their local knowledge will be invaluable in delivering this investment. I give way to the Member for Ogmore.