Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:34 pm on 8 June 2022.
There is further progress to be made, Andrew, but, come on, if you look at the diversity on the Labour benches now and throughout the history of devolution and compare it to your benches now and before, there's absolutely no comparison. [Interruption.] Darren, there's no point labouring the point, just look to your own performance and your own party, organisations and structures.
Dirprwy Lywydd, I know that we only have five minutes, so let me just say again that this is about better strategy, better policy and better delivery for the people of Wales. It's about better outcomes. There's a huge job to be done. I believe we can be a lot more radical—a lot more radical—in Wales. I believe we need to be, I believe we can be, but we need the resource to do that, and this further step that we will be taking today, and building on what I hope is the vote that will approve this next stage of Senedd reform today, will give us new opportunities to be that radical, reforming force and body that can properly deliver for our people in Wales.