6. Debate on the Report of the Special Purpose Committee on Senedd Reform — Reforming our Senedd: A stronger voice for the people of Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:52 pm on 8 June 2022.

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Photo of Joel James Joel James Conservative 5:52, 8 June 2022

Sorry. Indeed, nearly every major form of devolution of power, with the notable exceptions of the 1979 and 1997 referendums, and every form of devolution of central services to Wales has come from Conservative Governments in Westminster. So, I would thank the Member if he could refrain from spreading such Trumpian disinformation in his future remarks.

Finally, I want to say this: the increase in Members in this place is entirely pivoted on the fact that this Government believes that it is not scrutinised enough, as has been discussed in this debate. But may I remind the Government, and those who want to support these proposals, that we are always standing here telling you how bad a job you are doing? Your commissioners are writing report after report telling you that you are failing. So, why do you think another 36 Members queuing up just to tell you what everyone else here is already telling you is going to change that? Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd.