6. Debate on the Report of the Special Purpose Committee on Senedd Reform — Reforming our Senedd: A stronger voice for the people of Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:49 pm on 8 June 2022.

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Photo of Joel James Joel James Conservative 5:49, 8 June 2022

I want to express my absolute disappointment at the proposals of Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru to increase the number of Senedd Members in this place, and I want to do so for three main reasons.

Firstly, you have to be well aware that the UK Government is not going to increase the Welsh Government budget to reflect this increase in Members, so what Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru are proposing is to take an estimated £100 million out of the funds available for healthcare, out of the funds available for education, and out of the funds available for far more vital services, to pay—and let's be honest—for more politicians. It is incredible that this Government's response to the worst education standards in the UK, the lowest pay for people in every sector compared to the rest of the UK—and even before COVID, almost a quarter of the population of Wales were in poverty—is to take £100 million off these people so that this place can presumably talk more about how they can try and help them.

Secondly, I'm appalled that the First Minister would not even consider giving the people of Wales a say on this matter. Yesterday the First Minister, in response to my colleague Darren Millar, said that the people of Wales had chosen this when they voted in the last Senedd elections, but this is simply not the case. There was no mention whatsoever in the Welsh Labour manifesto, and let's be honest, this was not even widely discussed as an issue during the campaign on the doorstep. This Government needs to ground itself—