But I'm sad to say that, along with all of these individual problems that we all no doubt are aware of, I also have little faith in the stats and the data and information provided by the health board. For instance, the health board have informed the ombudsman that blinds with ligatures were taken down in 2010, but we know of patients who tried to strangle themselves there later than that date, and they were in fact taken down in 2018. So, people were misled by their health board. In their own annual reports since 2012, Betsi Cadwaladr have told the board that they've had 1,021 referrals to the ombudsman. But, in a freedom of information response last week, the ombudsman confirmed that the correct figure was 1,579—500 more than they've declared publicly. But, most damningly, the Minister must also explain to us why it is that Betsi Cadwaladr has more recorded severe patient safety incidents recorded every year than the rest of Wales combined, and more deaths recorded in this one health board than the rest of Wales combined. According to the national reporting and learning system, there were 239 severe incidents and 12 deaths recorded between December 2020 and September 2021, while the figures for the whole of the rest of Wales were 113 severe incidents and eight deaths. 

Finally, we heard yesterday that now is not the time for costly reorganisation. I'm afraid that that's a naive and blinkered view. If reorganisation improves the health outcomes for the people of north Wales, then surely it should be considered. And how much more money has the Government had to spend on Betsi Cadwaladr because of special measures and targeted intervention since 2015? We need this solved sooner rather than later.