No, I don't know how much that would cost, Gareth, but all of the financial implications for any of these proposals as we move forward would have to be looked at, and would be part of the case that we develop to either pursue the devolution of broadcasting or not. Because I think we need to be very clear about this—the expert panel is being put in place to deliver a case for the devolution of broadcasting if the evidence supports it. So, we need to be very clear about what we are seeking to do.

But Sam Kurtz was right to highlight—and I think Rhun ap Iorwerth did as well—the success of our screen and film industry. But I think it's important to remember as well that that has been heavily supported. You were talking, Sam, as though this was something that was just happening out there in the private sector, delivering all these fantastic productions, and, yes, of course that is what is happening, but let's not forget that major productions like The Pembrokeshire Murders and The Pact and lots of other productions on S4C—at least eight productions on S4C—were heavily supported by Creative Wales and Welsh Government. And that wouldn't stop in a new regulatory framework.

Carolyn Thomas talked about the concerns around selling off S4C and the threat that the BBC licence fee going would cause right the way across our public sector broadcasting. I think Rhun ap Iorwerth made a very similar point. So, I have written to Nadine Dorries, the Secretary of State for DCMS, on that point, but surprise, surprise, I've not actually had a reply from her at the moment.

Delyth Jewell referenced, as did Cefin Campbell, the work of the—[Interruption.]