Part of 3. Topical Questions – in the Senedd at 3:22 pm on 15 June 2022.
Well, Rhun, I completely agreed with the first part of your analysis, of course, and I won't bother to repeat that. And I'm sorry to hear that your constituent felt that, because that was certainly not the impression that we wished to give. According to our pre-pandemic passenger surveys, undertaken by the operator, 77 per cent of the people who travelled on the service used it for work purposes—so, very few for leisure purposes—and we widely recognise that business travel has significantly reduced as a result of the pandemic, and the change in behaviour is likely to continue. We also had an independent study commissioned into the carbon impact of the service, and basically—I was not surprised to find this—it is the most carbon intensive way of connecting the two parts of Wales.
Now, I completely agree with you that we need to get the connectivity between north and south Wales much better, much faster, much more comfortable—something that you can do without having to worry about the effect on yourself and your journey. I completely agree with that. So, we've already announced, as I said in answer to Carolyn, the brand new 197 trains, which will come into effect in north Wales before the rest of the country. And, as part of the co-operation agreement between our two parties, we've agreed to work with you on a range of other measures to improve north and south connectivity. This money will help us to accelerate that connectivity work, and I'm looking forward to doing that.
I take your point about the digital, but I was nevertheless pleased to see the digital improvement. I know that you are too. We've announced a number of things that allow us to look at white premises on Ynys Môn—and you and I, in a previous life, went to look at some of those, so I was delighted with that as well. I absolutely accept that that doesn't improve the connectivity, but what it does do is make it more and more likely that people will work from home a very large percentage of the time, and make it more likely that the plane is even less full than it was in the first place.
So, I am sorry to hear your constituent felt like that. It was certainly not casually taken. It was the subject of a great deal of thought. We do not wish anyone in north Wales to feel less connected, and we look forward to working with you, through the co-operation agreement, on improving that north-south connectivity to the best of our ability, and also working with you to hold the feet of the Conservatives opposite to the fire about the absolutely scandalous position of rail infrastructure investment in Wales.