7. Debate on the Climate Change, Environment and Infrastructure Committee Report: Annual Report on Natural Resources Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:06 pm on 22 June 2022.

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Photo of Jane Dodds Jane Dodds Liberal Democrat 4:06, 22 June 2022

Because I wanted to focus on rivers, and we've heard from both Huw and Delyth and Llyr about rivers. I want to just briefly mention the River Wye, which is in the region that I cover. It continues to deteriorate, along with the River Usk, which is in a terrible condition, and in July 2020, 45,000 fish were found dead in the River Llynfi.

I'm particularly concerned, as we've heard from the other contributors, that, against this backdrop, NRW lacks the tools to undertake the regulation and enforcement powers conferred on it. The chief executive officer of NRW, Clare Pillman, stated that NRW's grant in aid has been in fact reduced by 30 per cent in real terms since NRW was created. Add to that that the Welsh Government has given NRW additional core responsibilities, but these haven't been reflected in NRW's budget allocation. The 2021 agricultural pollution regulations would alone require 60 new members of staff as the minimum viable number needed to enforce these regulations. But NRW themselves have put the actual requirement at well over 200 to deliver against those regulations.

This all means that NRW struggles to undertake extensive monitoring to prevent and identify environmental incidents, contributing to the deteriorating conditions of our rivers, particularly the River Wye. It was disappointing, therefore, that the Government stated in the 2021-22 budget process that NRW's funding was sufficient for their statutory responsibilities, and according to the letter from the Minister in response to the report, the Government appears to—