10. Debate: Stage 4 of the Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:21 pm on 28 June 2022.

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Photo of Laura Anne Jones Laura Anne Jones Conservative 6:21, 28 June 2022

I'd firstly like to place on Record my gratitude as well to the clerks and legal staff throughout the passage of this Bill, and I extend that thanks to our Chair of the CYPE committee, Jayne Bryant, the CYPE committee, and all that have played a part in getting this Bill to Stage 4 today. I'd also, of course, like to thank the Minister for listening to our concerns in the main, recognising the Welsh Conservatives' contributions to the Bill. I'm glad we were able to co-operate to deliver on notable improvements to this legislation.

Whilst we support the overarching aims of this Bill, there are, of course, some concerns that remain. But, despite our concerns, we will be voting in support of this Bill today. It has generally been a very constructive approach from all parties to ensure that this Bill allays fears and delivers what we all want to see—an improved education—and to ensure that this legislation will stand the test of time. We were, as I've stated from the start of these proceedings, concerned about the rapid timeline of this Bill, but, given the circumstances, we were determined to make the best of this opportunity to help improve tertiary education and research in Wales. We were therefore happy to see that the Minister has been open to addressing a number of our concerns, such as issues of surrounding additional learning needs, learner well-being and the transparency of funding policy, which were areas I was happy to collaborate with him on.

As I've declared repeatedly throughout the stages of this Bill, to get the most success out of this new commission, it must be the case that this new body is truly able to operate independently of the Welsh Government. Welsh Ministers becoming too involved would lead to the creation of unclear governance structures, confusion and delay, all of which would hinder the ability of the commission to deliver on its objectives.

I still remain concerned that such a substantial budget is to be at the disposal of this new commission—proper financial responsibility should be demonstrated. Myself and my party will continue to closely monitor the implementation of this Bill to ensure that it delivers real improvements to the quality of tertiary education and research in Wales, and we'll also be keeping an eye on how much influence Ministers exercise over the commission in order to make certain that its independence and autonomy are not compromised as it discharges its duties. I would really appreciate it if the Minister could keep the Senedd informed with updates on the commission and progress being made. Diolch yn fawr.