Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:54 pm on 5 July 2022.
Thank you, Llywydd. Can I firstly thank Llyr Gruffydd for his support throughout and for my amendments there? Minister, I'm pleased that you said that you will be supporting amendments 3 and 4 in the name of Llyr Gruffydd. I'm disappointed that you can't accept 8, as I think it's only fair to say that there was a huge amount of concern from everyone we took evidence from that using secondary legislation to alter primary legislation was almost an attack on this legislature, because we are the Senedd; we should be making the decisions, and we should be enabled to scrutinise things very thoroughly. I know that Mike Hedges isn't here today, but I know that if he had been here, he would have shared his concern also that he felt that there should be an opportunity to review at two years, even if it's only to tell us that nothing has happened, or some indication of when it might be used. That additional opportunity would help satisfy the lack of scrutiny that we feel that we have. So, Llywydd, I'm disappointed that it doesn't look like the Government can accept amendment 8, but I'm happy that it looks like 3 and 4 will be supported.