At the end of the day, we should be looking to give people an equal opportunity, helping them to find work, bringing out the potential of everybody, not actually saying, 'Do you know what, we'll be a nanny state and we'll just hand it out to you anyway.' Where's the incentive for anybody then to think they can be creative? It's gone.

But again, where were they when they were given mandate after mandate to solve the issues we all witness today? A failing health system, an education system with very poor standards, very bad public—[Interruption.] Oh, come on.