Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:41 pm on 27 September 2022.
In your update on Ukraine statements before the summer recess, you spoke of the constructive working relationship you had with the then UK Government Minister for Refugees, Lord Harrington. And of course you've referred to him in your statement today also. When he resigned from this role earlier this month, Lord Harrington stated that the role was no longer required because a permanent system was now in place for arrivals, that the role was always meant to be temporary and that his work was essentially complete. He added that he would now take on a voluntary role helping refugees. How do you respond to his statement, based upon practical inter-governmental working requirements in Wales?
In this context, I understand that the new Minister for Migration in the Home Office, Tom Pursglove MP, has been responding to questions regarding the UK schemes for Ukrainian refugees. Does this tally with your understanding, given that you stated that you've written to, I think it was, the Secretary of State for levelling up and the new Home Secretary, in your statement? And if this does tally with your understanding, what engagement are you seeking with Tom Pursglove?
Following my introduction of Link International to you, I'm pleased that the charity and its Ukrainian link programme is working well with north Wales local authorities, in collaboration with other statutory agencies and Welsh Government, in bringing together community and faith groups and third sector organisations to support Ukrainians arriving in north Wales. When I attended a Link International barbecue for Ukrainian refugees in Conwy in July, I was told that in order to keep people as hosts under the Homes for Ukraine scheme and to stop people being moved on, additional support for the hosts would be needed, including support with winter fuel bills. When I wrote to you about this you replied that you were aware of the risk of sponsorships not continuing beyond six months because the hosts are unable to afford the rise in fuel costs. What discussions have you therefore had directly or are you planning to have with the UK Government, beyond correspondence, regarding a possible uplift to the monthly £350 payment to people hosting Ukrainians in their own homes?
During my visit to Conwy in July, the need for English for speakers of other languages, or ESOL, lessons, in person and online, and for action to support skill and qualification transferability—where refugees at the event included a doctor, a dentist, a paramedic, engineers, IT consultants, people with media and digital expertise and many others—were also emphasised to me. Further to your 9 August reply to me regarding these, I'd therefore be grateful for an update on these issues in the context of the devolved services for which the Welsh Government is responsible.
At the event in July, new arrivals were arriving in buses and I learned of people being placed in increasing numbers in emergency accommodation, hotels, schools, et cetera. At the St David's parliamentary prayer breakfast for Wales on 3 March, I sat next to someone working with the Ministry of Defence on sustainable modular housing solutions for Ukrainian refugees. What, if any, discussions are you having with the MOD about this for Wales further to my raising this with you before the summer recess?
Following the Polish Heritage Days event in the Senedd on 13 July, I sent you a document produced by the Polish Integration Support Centre, or PISC, in Wrexham, detailing their humanitarian efforts to help Ukrainian refugees and a proposal for consolidated and sustainable support for Ukrainian people, including construction of temporary housing. Further to our meeting last week—and I thank you for that—how will you therefore engage with them regarding this?
Finally, I received an e-mail from a constituent on a housing waiting list describing a situation that challenges my own understanding of arrangements in place. He asks, and I quote, 'Why is it that the Ukrainians are getting £500 a week, and some have moved out of a holiday park and got accommodation, and I’m still struggling?' What, therefore, is your understanding of the situation he describes, and how would you respond to him?