The Right to Protest

2. Questions to the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution – in the Senedd on 5 October 2022.

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Photo of Carolyn Thomas Carolyn Thomas Labour

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8. What discussions has the Counsel General had with other law officers in respect of the right to protest? OQ58478

Photo of Mick Antoniw Mick Antoniw Labour 3:02, 5 October 2022

Thank you for the question. It is vital that people have the right to have their voices heard and express their concerns freely in a safe and peaceful way. I will continue to impress upon the UK Government that Wales's views must be heard in respect of the importance of the right to protest.

Photo of Carolyn Thomas Carolyn Thomas Labour

Thank you for the answer, Counsel General. Following the proclamation of the ascension of King Charles III, a number of arrests of peaceful protesters were made. A barrister was even threatened with arrest for carrying a blank piece of paper. These incidents are significant because they demonstrate the draconian limits the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022 now places on our freedoms in the UK. Counsel General, do you agree with me that the right to protest peacefully is a vital part of our democracy? What representations have you made to the UK Government since these arrests? Thank you.

Photo of Mick Antoniw Mick Antoniw Labour 3:03, 5 October 2022

Thank you for the question. I saw some of those events; I saw some of the arrests that took place within London that caused me very serious concerns—concerns because at the same time media were standing up and quite rightly condemning the arrest of people standing up in Red Square, standing up in Moscow, in Russian towns, with blank sheets of paper and being arrested. To see that happening on our streets, I think, was most unfortunate.

I think there was an indication of the lack of understanding of a piece of authoritarian legislation that was brought in, which we actually opposed and refused legislative consent for—the police, crime and sentencing legislation. I think it also reflected what I think was confusion and a lack of understanding on behalf of the police officers themselves as to what, actually, their powers were. So, there's an important issue there that needs to be raised, and I will use every opportunity I can to raise it, in terms of the exercise of power, power of the state, which is exercised through the police, but on the basis of the protection of the rights and civil liberties that we all have.

I appreciate the sensitive and considered approach taken by police forces in Wales, because during the recent period of mourning, I'm very aware that they acted with great tact and consideration in order to ensure that the right to protest and free expression was maintained across that period. That was particularly the case during the visit to Wales by the King on Friday 9 September, where the police were able to support a protest site and maintain public safety as part of their approach to the day. So, even at a time of great national sadness, it's still important for people to be able to maintain the right to protest and the right to free expression of their thoughts and beliefs.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 3:05, 5 October 2022

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