One of the examples that was used in that report, First Minister, was children turning up with severe burns and, because equipment was not available, staff were having to put children into sinks to cool their burns or use the showers in the staff changing rooms. That's the level of the challenge in that A&E department, and indeed A&E departments across the whole of Wales.

What I would also suggest is one of the big pressure points on A&E departments is obviously the waiting times that people are finding when they have to go on to the lists and they're not getting their procedures undertaken. That's putting pressure on A&E departments, with people turning up with complications because of the waits that have grown over time. Now, the health Minister, on Sunday Supplement said that she has not given up yet on waiting times—a direct quote from Sunday Supplement. The one waiting time that she was challenged to say whether the Government would meet was the first target of having all out-patient appointments undertaken by the end of the year for those who have been waiting 12 months or more. Will you say now whether that particular target will be met in a little over two and a half months' time?