5. Statement by the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd: Avian Flu

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:03 pm on 8 November 2022.

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Photo of Lesley Griffiths Lesley Griffiths Labour 4:03, 8 November 2022

Thank you very much for those questions. Clearly, you are going against the scientific advice and the advice I'm given by my chief veterinary officer in relation to mandatory housing, and I set out, I thought very clearly, in my oral statement the reasons why we have not followed England. You don't seem to ask why England haven't followed us, but the reason we have not followed England is because the advice I am given is that we shouldn't be introducing a compulsory housing order for poultry and captive birds in Wales at this time.

I can tell you that I do review it, and we will be reviewing it every day. So, it's not a matter of reconsidering; that review is done on a daily basis. The chief veterinary officer works, obviously, with other chief veterinary officers across the country, and I have to say that since compulsory housing was introduced in some parts of England—I think it was Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex—they've had 34 infected premises confirmed just in those areas, collectively, even though there was a mandatory housing order. So, it just reiterates to me, and I hope to everybody else, how important biosecurity is; that is the biggest thing in this fight against avian influenza. In that time, we've had two infected premises in Wales, so you can see, when we're operating without a housing order, the difference in the number of cases.

You mentioned free-range eggs, and obviously that is an issue that we have to take into consideration. We think that the current outbreak is likely to continue until spring next year, so this is something that you don’t take lightly. I’ve taken the decision to bring in mandatory housing in previous years, but I can only go on the scientific evidence that I am given and the advice I am given by the interim chief veterinary officer, and at this current time, he is telling me that it’s not necessary. Tomorrow it might be different, next week might be different, but please be assured that we are reviewing it on a daily basis.

But I would like to reiterate what I was saying: excellent levels of biosecurity remain the most effective protection against an incursion of avian flu. We had a new case just last night, as you may have picked up, and the chief veterinary officer had to declare another infected premises. That was the second one, and when I asked the reasons why we think that is there, there was evidence of contact with wild birds, so I reiterate the biosecurity message. It's not a matter of doing things differently, and I don’t want people to think that. We all take our evidence and advice from our chief veterinary officers.

You make a really good point around informing people, and one of the things that I was very keen to do, probably about five years ago now, was to try and encourage more people to register if they kept birds. At the time, and I think it might still be the case, you only had to register if you had 50 birds, but we encouraged everybody, even if you only had one or two or three or four chickens, to register, so that we knew where those birds were, because it’s very easy nowadays, isn’t it, just to drop an e-mail, and we were able to write to everybody on that register. From a comms point of view, social media, I’m sure you’ve picked up on Twitter, every day we seem to be putting out messages around avian influenza, but it is really important, and having this statement today is obviously another way of being able to inform the public.