Like others, I want to thank the committee for this report and for this short investigation. I thought the points made by the committee Chair in opening this debate were well made, and established a very clear group of findings, which I’m glad the Welsh Government has responded to. But the reality is that we need the UK Government to respond to this as well. And I'm participating in this debate because I’ve listened to the contributions this afternoon, and many have focused on the needs of rural Wales, describing this as an issue facing rural areas. But I have to tell you, it isn’t. This is not about rural communities. This is about some of our most densely populated urban areas as well. If you go to parts of Cardiff, you have some significant issues with lack of access to sufficiently fast broadband speeds. And in my constituency in Blaenau Gwent, you have a number of different parts of the community that simply cannot access the broadband speeds they require to participate in aspects of modern life, as you've described, Mabon, but also the businesses that operate there are unable to access markets because they simply cannot match the broadband speeds that other parts of the UK are able to do.

So, this isn't about rural Wales versus urban Wales—this is about a failure of the UK system to deliver for the whole of Wales. This is why I think this report is so important. The Welsh Government has invested over the years. I remember speaking to Ministers over a long period of time now about the need to invest in broadband, in different sorts of broadband, over the years, but let's be absolutely clear where the failure lies here, and the failure lies with a UK system that simply does not deliver for Wales. It is a failure of the market. The market is not delivering the sorts of broadband speeds and connectivity that people require. It is a failure of regulation, because the regulator isn't ensuring that the market delivers. And finally, it is a failure of Government, because the Government is allowing the regulation to fail.

So, it's a failure of the system. And I'm going to help out Janet Finch-Saunders now, if she—. Here we go, got her attention. Because this isn't simply a failure of the current Conservative Government, but it is. It was also a failure under previous Labour Governments, and the system that was set up by the Blair Government, of Ofcom and the rest of it, had in its roots failure, because it focused on the—[Interruption.] I will allow you to intervene, just allow me to finish the sentence; we'll do a deal on that, surely. Ofcom was established to look at the rights and responsibilities of consumers, and not the rights of citizens, and it was that debate that I believe was lost when Ofcom was being established 20 years ago. I give way.