6. Debate on the Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee Report — 'Levelling the playing field: A report on participation in sport and physical activity in disadvantaged areas'

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:38 pm on 30 November 2022.

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I would like to also echo my thanks to the clerks, my fellow Members, and everyone who gave evidence to us and to the engagement team. I certainly echo Alun Davies's point about the fact that this has been an inquiry that has raised our spirits in terms of watching people's passions and seeing a lot of the projects that are happening to ensure that there is better engagement with sport. I'd like to echo the points made by Tom Giffard in terms of the importance that we heard in terms of being able to enjoy sport, regardless of whether you're good at sport. It's a shock to you all, I'm sure, but I was never very good at sport in school. But, a person enjoys sport and having the opportunity to play, and I did have that opportunity. I do think that that was the saddening thing about this inquiry, was seeing how many opportunities are lost because of a variety of different reasons.

Certainly, in terms of the recommendations, we have to think about them in the context of the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015, that this is not just about sport, it's about participation and health and well-being, and it's also about preventing ill-health in the future because certainly, it's in a number of the disadvantaged areas that we see long-term health problems and earlier mortality rates because of obesity and so forth, and so, we have to look at this as not just expenditure on a sports portfolio; it has to be expenditure by the Government and an investment for future generations, and also that sport is for all ages, and some of the examples that we saw, in terms of the walking football and walking rugby, and how important that is in terms of community and bringing people together once again in the wake of COVID. So, this is something that's beyond the sports portfolio.

I'd also like us to look more broadly in terms of culture and participation in culture, because one of the other things that we heard from the witnesses was that things like dance can fall into both categories—coming through the culture portfolio or the arts portfolio, rather than sport, but that is also something that we need to look at in context.

And I think one of the major things that was raised by Tom Giffard is: what is the point of investing in first-rank facilities, and twenty-first century schools in particular, if not everybody who wants to use them can reach them, if it's only those who have parents or carers who can take them there that can use them and get benefit from them. And that certainly came over very clearly.

I'm sure that we all, as a Senedd, agree that everyone should have the opportunity to take part in sport, whether that's for fun or at a professional level, and this report clearly shows that this is not happening and that not everyone who can go on to the highest level is having the same level of opportunity at present. The fact that access to facilities is a postcode lottery is something that we have tackle, and Alun Davies was completely right—that's not something I say very often—but in this context, he was absolutely right in terms of the geographical element. Of course, there are problems in terms of rural Wales, but this is a broader problem, and we do have people, in the region that I represent, in terms of South Wales Central, who have those barriers, so it's not just about geography.

I also think that we need to note the evidence of Swim Wales, which noted that the majority of the about 500 swimming pools in Wales are located in south Wales, and also note things in terms of increasing costs in terms of keeping swimming pools going. That's not just about sports—that's a skill that can save lives, and we have to think about ensuring that people who leave school can all swim as a critical life skill. So, one thing that we need to look at further is in terms of ensuring that cost or a lack of public transport is not a barrier to participation.

I'd like to draw attention to the point that came over in the research in terms of girls in particular and ensuring that everyone, regardless of their background or their ethnicity, feels comfortable and feels confident in terms of participating in sport. We had a very good example from the Welsh Rugby Union regarding what they've been doing with period products and ensuring that appropriate resources are provided. Those things are so important, and I think there are very good practices happening because of this.

I have to admit that I'm disappointed with the Government's response to the recommendations, with only five of the 12 being accepted, and I would hope, as I mentioned, that this is something that does need to be owned by the entire Government if we want to ensure an improvement in the opportunities for young people and people of all ages to engage with sport. And I do hope that the Deputy Minister does commit to continue to co-operate with the committee in terms of scrutinising and taking action on this report and collaborating with other Ministers to ensure that sport is for everyone, regardless of their background and wherever they live in Wales and whatever level they play at. Thank you very much.