Group 3: Guidance (Amendments 15, 17)

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:47 pm on 6 December 2022.

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Photo of Julie James Julie James Labour 4:47, 6 December 2022

Turning to amendment 15, tabled by Janet Finch-Saunders, this amendment inserts a provision in section 2 of the Bill to set out how the exemptions contained in table 1 of the Schedule relating to single-use plastic straws should apply: specifically, how a supplier can be satisfied that they reasonably believe a person needs a straw for health or disability reasons. It is very important that this exemption is handled sensitively. Disabled people and their representative groups have continually stressed they care about the environment and want to do their part to protect it. However, at the same time, they do not want to suffer discrimination or be subject to negative views for using products they may rely on to care for themselves or to stay safe. We have made it clear from the start that, when individuals do request a straw, they do not need to provide any evidence of that need. Based on the overwhelming level of support for the bans and exemptions, we do not believe individuals will request a straw unless they genuinely need it. Consequently, we believe there will not be any burden on the supplier to request evidence of that need, nor will there be any requirement of the supplier to make any assumption of that need. To ensure businesses and disabled people are aware of this approach, we are developing comprehensive guidance and producing awareness-raising material. Llywydd, should the Bill pass here today, initial communications will be released this week to start this process. Based on the reasons I've provided, I consider amendment 15 is unnecessary and will not be supporting it.

Next is amendment 17, also tabled by Janet Finch-Saunders. This amendment is in relation to section 3 of the Bill and requires Welsh Ministers to consult with representatives of protected characteristic groups in relation to introducing regulations under the Bill that may impact upon them. This amendment was originally tabled by the Member at Stage 2, and this sought to amend section 3 of the Bill to place an obligation on the Welsh Ministers to consult with representatives of disabled persons in relation to introducing future bans that may impact upon them. While I supported the principle of the amendment at Stage 2, my preference was for an amendment that requires the Welsh Ministers to consult not only the representatives of disabled persons, but the representatives of any protected characteristic group. I believe this approach will ensure we continue to account for the needs of these groups as we take work forward in future phases of the Bill. I very much thank the Member for working collaboratively with us to make these important changes, and I’m very pleased to support amendment 17 and ask Members to do the same. Diolch.