Well, I completely agree that flexibility is the key here, and as we do the work with TfW and the local authorities identifying where an optimum bus network goes, there will be a place for standard scheduled services and there will be a place for complementary, flexible, demand-responsive services. As Huw Irranca knows, we've been trialling the Fflecsi service across different parts of Wales and we've now completed the pilot in Newport. I took part in a journey in Llanberis last week on the Sherpa service, which also linked in to the local Fflecsi service, which has been hugely successful in Snowdonia, not only helping to serve the visitor economy in the summer, but then using that success to be able to fund a regular service for locals through the winter months.

Now, that'll be horses for courses of where that best fits in. What we found in Newport is the provision of a Fflecsi service has generated new customers, new demand, which in turn has shown that there is in fact viability for a fixed scheduled route, rather than a Fflecsi route. So, I think we need to be flexible—dare I say it—in the way that we apply this model, but it definitely has a very important part to play. And I'd agree with him entirely on his last vision: this is about giving people a genuine alternative to the car.