Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:14 pm on 7 December 2022.
No, I'll take every opportunity, actually.
So, basically, this is a mess, Minister. I've been approached by so many now. I'm sorry, I can't see where the confusion is on the motion tabled by my colleague, and to be fair, Sam Rowlands eloquently laid out the foundations of what the concern is here. This is unfair, it's unjust, and you cannot retrospectively apply charges for a period of time when those business owners did not have any control over when they could open. The big worry I have is that we're told by the Welsh Government when we write in, 'You need to go to your local authority; they can apply local discretion’, but we go to the local authority and they tell us, 'Oh, I'm sorry, it's the Valuation Office Agency, also the Welsh Government'. As I've raised before in this Chamber, the VOA has a service level agreement with the Welsh Government—or should have—and if you're procuring a service from the VOA, then ultimately you have the right here, Minister, to be able to actually tell the VOA how you want this law applied. So, from my perspective, it is unjust, it's unfair. I would just make sure that—[Interruption.] Yes.