8. Debate on the Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee Report — 'Report on operation of the interim environmental protection measures'

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:16 pm on 7 December 2022.

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Photo of Joyce Watson Joyce Watson Labour 5:16, 7 December 2022

I don't want to, and I won't, reiterate any of the points that my colleagues have already made, but it's important, at this stage, to thank the clerks, the Chair and the clerking team for assisting us in our work. I think there is an issue here beyond governance, and it's an issue of capacity. The report of the interim assessor highlights that demand on the service was greater than that which was anticipated. Of course, that's to be welcomed, because it does show that the Welsh public are engaged and concerned about the protection of our natural heritage and environment. And going forward, that is a good thing.

I remember when I was first elected to this Chamber, I was involved in the case of the Burry inlet that I know the Minister is familiar with, and where the European Court of Justice ultimately ruled that the UK breached laws over sewage and waste water. It was complicated, it was contested and it was a drawn-out affair, and it did, indeed, demonstrate the need for an independent body to rule on these matters.

What I ask is that, while the structure is being built, it might be worth considering beefing up the interim measures that the Welsh Government has currently in place. It wouldn't, of course, confer the legal powers that an environmental governance body must have, but it would ensure a stronger voice and a wider reach for their interim assessor's office to respond to the public concerns about how we protect our forests, waterways, hedgerows and anything else that needs protecting. So, I just ask, Minister, if you would consider those areas. Thank you.