Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:04 pm on 13 December 2022.
Thank you for the series of questions and comments. Let me just go to some of the starting points he made. When it comes to how we're actually understanding who the young person's guarantee is reaching, and how we're actually dealing with a diverse range of young people, and the complexity, it's because of a number of things. So, some young people have a successful route already into work, education or training. High numbers of people go into post-16 education without the need for additional intervention—some of our challenge there is how we can help with the quality of what they choose, and making sure that the choices are appropriate for them, and they have a more open mind to the range of their career choices. That work actually takes place earlier on in education. When I had the pleasure of being before you in committee recently, we were talking about the need to go earlier into people's educational journey to make sure that people have a wider range of choices. There are still far too many professions where men and women—young boys and girls—make very different choices about what they can do. And actually, there's plenty of talent that isn't being taken advantage of. So, we think that we could do more in terms of getting to people earlier.
When it comes to those people who we are concerned may not take, if you like, the traditional route that is—[Inaudible.]—by many people, that's why the work we're doing on the youth engagement and progression framework is really important; the earlier you can identify people who are at risk of not being in education, employment or training, the better to support them. That's multi-agency, often, as well. And then to make sure that, when we go into the guarantee itself, to understand the experiences they are having. So, in the national conversation, that's a really important part of understanding that you have traditional survey-based work, people who are more likely to fill in surveys, but also a specific focus group, not just to get into more detail, but some of those groups that are less likely to fill in those traditional surveys. So, for example, care-experienced young people, young parents, people with mental health and people with neurodiversity—dealing with your point again about people with different abilities and disabilities.
So, we've been doing that deliberately to understand who we're reaching and what we can do to improve the offer. That's both the offer itself and your point about communication, because with perhaps the exception of one person we might hear from later on, most of us can't claim to be young anymore, objectively. And actually, the way that people think and see the world is entirely different, and so for us to able to ask them and to listen to them about what makes a difference, where they're getting their information from, and that they're aware of what the guarantee offers and then how they're taking it up. So, the work and employment bureau is for people in further education who might not come out with a further training or education employment outcome out of that, and basing those bureaux, opportunities to bring employers and young people together in a setting that they're familiar with, is really important to be able to do that.
So, it's one of the examples of how I want to communicate, as well as understanding where people get news, views and information from. I have to say, when I had the campaign entitled 'Feed your positivity', I wasn't sure whether I was talking about someone who was 50 and trying to pretend that I was really 15 again, but, actually, it came from direct evidence and feedback from young people themselves. So, I was reassured about that—that this was something that would be able to actually fit the people we're trying to reach as well, which is part of the point. It does require you to be, every now and again, a little uncomfortable, but that's the whole point of doing this.
And then, on your point around business engagement, it's hard to say exactly the numbers of businesses, because through the whole guarantee, you've got business engaging at different points in school and further education—for example, the employment bureaux—as well as those that are providing opportunities through Jobs Growth Wales+, for example. I will try to find, in our annual report, if there's a better way to try to highlight the number of businesses that are being engaged; rather than saying it's difficult, to find a way to give you something meaningful, because I do intend to publish an annual report in the new year. And when it comes to the nature of the offer, we have listened to what young people have said, and we've changed our Jobs Growth Wales+ programme. It's now targeted at 16 to 18-year-olds, based on the former traineeship model and what previously happened in Jobs Growth Wales. So, we are deliberately changing the offer itself.
On the barriers grant, I don't have information yet, but I will look to it to think about protected characteristics, background and geography for people who are taking that up, but it is—. Well, the figures I've told you about are within the first few months, so I wouldn't expect to have, necessarily, a wholly representative view at present, but I'll certainly look to how we can make that information available.
And when it comes to budget choices—I see the Minister for Finance and Local Government is sat next to me—I won't go through all of the choices as she'll be setting them out in more detail, but in prioritisng within my department the young person's guarantee and various parts of it, it's meant that I had to make painful choices in other parts of the budget. And every Minister could stand up and talk about the priorities they've made and the fact that we've had to pay for that by making different choices somewhere else. That doesn't mean that those things aren't of value, it's just that if you choose things that are your bigger priorities, you've got to make other choices, too, because sadly, there isn't a spare £0.5 billion that the finance Minister has kept somewhere to throw around to keep us all happy. So, we've got really big, difficult choices, and you'll see those in the detail in what the finance Minister says when get to more detailed committee scrutiny in the new year as well.
And on green skills, I expect to be publishing a net-zero action plan that will deal broadly with your points, and how that plays a part in the young person's guarantee early in 2023.