5. Statement by the Minister for Social Justice: Cost of Living

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:05 pm on 10 January 2023.

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Photo of Jenny Rathbone Jenny Rathbone Labour 5:05, 10 January 2023

Thank you very much. As you say in your statement, the key levers for tackling poverty through the tax and welfare system all sit with the UK Government, and that includes the really scandalous situation where people have to wait five weeks for universal credit payments, which actually just pushes them into the hands of the loan sharks, because what else are they supposed to live off—fresh air? 

So, I just wanted to focus on one of the areas that we can do something about, which is the difference that could be made by tackling food poverty. Last week, I visited Can Cook/Well-Fed in Shotton in Jack Sargeant's constituency, and as you know, Minister, Robbie Davison's organisation has a well-oiled strategy for eliminating food poverty in Flintshire and other surrounding areas. On the wall it says, 'If people eat well, they cope well', and that is one of the problems I see going around my constituency—that people are not eating well and they are not coping with the difficult problems that they face of living in poverty. So, following your own discussions with Mr Davison last year, I wondered what consideration the Cabinet cost-of-living sub-committee has given to measures to eliminate food poverty, building on the experience of the Well-Fed organisation, over and above, of course, the really important initiative to provide free school meals to all primary school pupils.

Secondly, on the lack of uptake by some people of these vouchers for energy, whether they are from the UK Government or from the Welsh Government, one of the serious concerns I have is that many scammers are using this as an excuse to try and harvest people's personal data, and that is one of the reasons why people may be very scared to approach these things. The system is so complicated for people, when it should be an automatic entitlement into people's benefit account, because the state knows who is receiving these benefits. Why are they simply not paying these amounts of money?