8. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Wales Air Ambulance bases reorganisation

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:18 pm on 11 January 2023.

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Photo of Samuel Kurtz Samuel Kurtz Conservative 6:18, 11 January 2023

Diolch, Llywydd. It's a real pleasure to close this debate this afternoon because we've heard real cross-party support for something that I believe is distinctly Welsh. The Welsh people take great pride in having somewhat of an ownership within a charity that affects and can affect and can influence everybody's lives in all four corners of this great country.

In opening the debate, Russell spoke about that Welshness and how it was launched on St David's Day 2001. We heard then about the complexities that existed following the announcement back in August from EMRTS and the Wales air ambulance, and he provided us a helpful timeline in terms of that. The notes I made make for difficult reading, so that is the complexity of that—for a layman trying to understand who the responsibility lay with it must be incredibly difficult.

Pertinent to Russell in mid Wales, obviously, is the potential closure of the Welshpool base. I think Russell added on to that the confusion after he brought questions to this Chamber around the data, the ownership and the responsibility of that. I think that's something really pertinent. But Russell provided us with a very helpful overview of the situation as it has been over the last couple of months in allowing us to visualise why this debate is so important to us here today.

Rhun then, following Russell, provided that cross-party support and mentioned the Bull in terms of the fundraising element. Yesterday, we heard from Darren with regard to Wetherspoons, the Bull from Rhun today—[Interruption.] A proper pub—and the £50,000 raised in that fundraising effort. I myself, as a member of Pembrokeshire young farmers, cycled up to Blackpool raising money for the Wales air ambulance. It's one of those charities that, wherever you are, in all parts of Wales, you feel that you've raised money, and that's where that ownership of this charity comes from and why that is so important.

Rhun stressed the importance of rural Wales and how difficult it is to access that emergency healthcare when it's required across rural Wales. What Rhun really stressed there as well was how this is an important recruitment tool to areas of Wales where there are these depots—Minister, you mentioned that as well. I think that's really important. When there are difficulties in recruitment in the NHS in Wales, having something of this quality in those four regions of Wales I think is a real tool that we should be singing and dancing about, rather than looking at consolidation and centralisation into one area.

Moving on, we heard then from James, a colleague of Russell's in mid Wales, and the importance around the Welshpool depot—again, the rurality, the difference of healthcare provision in urban and rural settings, and the longer flight times, potentially, from north Wales. Again, he stressed the no district general hospital in Powys—that's why we need that air ambulance—and the importance of the Save Wales Air Ambulance campaign. He spoke eloquently about the local support that he'd had from members in his constituency.