Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:32 pm on 28 February 2023.
Diolch yn fawr. I think it's clear that the executive team needs a lot of work in Betsi, and I do hope that the next chair and chief executive will understand the importance of that. I've talked about the levers that I don't have, the fact that I cannot dismiss people that I don't employ. I think it's really important that people understand that these people have rights, you need to respect those rights and due process needs to be followed. But this is the beginning of a process, as I've said time and again.
There were considerable concerns in relation to Betsi in relation to leadership, management, board effectiveness and governance, organisational culture, service quality, patient safety, operational delivery, leadership and financial management. I think what's important is that, despite all of the issues where we have concerns, we don't talk down Betsi. We've got to be really careful about actually trying to attract new people to work in the health board. I think there are things that we can do. I think the north Wales medical school is a real opportunity for Betsi. I think we could be attracting some significant new people to north Wales as a result of that new medical school. We have the north Wales dental academy. We've now got the '111 press 2' mental health service. All of these things are things where there has been progress. I think it's important that we don't forget that, actually, day in, day out, there are thousands of people who are really benefiting from the health and care that is given on a daily basis to people in north Wales.