Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:56 pm on 8 March 2023.
Thank you, Llywydd. It's very difficult, isn't it, to answer all of the points raised in a debate of this sort in the very short time we have available to us. So, we will be bringing forward a debate in Government time to discuss this in slower time.
But, Llywydd, just to sum up, a change in approach is undoubtedly the right thing to do, but to be effective we need to make the right thing to do the easiest thing to do, as the Deputy Minister has said many times, because human nature is to do what is easy. But, in short, Llywydd, we are moving forward into a bright, economically and environmentally sustainable future, whereas, as this debate shows, the Tories are locked in a false, overly nostalgic vision of the past, and they want a dystopian future where more and more of our countryside is devastated by traffic, and our climate and the essential natural world that sustains it are driven to their knees. I know which of those futures I support, and I know which of those futures the people of Wales, as all the opinion polls show, support as well. Diolch.