Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:41 pm on 14 March 2023.
The second supplementary budget is a relatively minor movement of money, and completes the budget system for the year. I want to just make three very brief points.
I welcome the areas prioritised by the Welsh Government in this supplementary budget and the approach taken by the Minister in managing the resources available as we near the end of the financial year. I would like to agree with the Finance Committee that where money is allocated in Wales, it should be able to moved to reserves or from reserves to expenditure with no Westminster Treasury involvement. Last year, over £150 million was lost to Wales because the Government had not spent it and it was not allowed to be added to the reserve. We need to move away from the Welsh Government being treated as a Westminster department by the Treasury. That's the problem we've got, and I think it's one, as we talk about devolution, that we really do need to resolve. We're a Government and a Parliament, not just another department within Westminster. Can I again urge the Welsh Government to bring a debate to the Senedd supporting full control over reserves? All political parties have supported it in the Finance Committee, and it would make life a lot easier and make the argument a lot stronger for the Welsh Government if they could go and tell Westminster, 'This is the will of the whole of the Parliament.' The committee was assured by the Minister that no money would be returned this year.
Secondly, it is important that overspends by health boards are met from the health and social services budget, but if they cannot, then responsibility falls to the general reserve, because each health board's budget is part of the consolidated Welsh Government account. I think, sometimes, we talk about health boards as if they're something separate. If we were a business, they'd be wholly owned subsidiaries of the Welsh Government, and as such, the Welsh Government has responsibility for their financial position, and they have to ensure that, overall, they have enough money to pay their bills.
Finally, it is very important that the Welsh Government maximises the benefits of money spent, not just spending it.