Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:19 pm on 21 March 2023.
Diolch, Llywydd. I notice we are ahead of time. I'm enthused by the fact that this important subject has had so many contributions, so I hope it might give me a little bit of leeway if I try and answer some of those questions.
The first thing I'll deal with is Mark Isherwood's point, and the point that others made, on this issue of the model and the independence. I've absolutely no real disagreement with much of what's been said; I think it's really just about the timing and the process we go through to achieve it. His Majesty's Courts and Tribunals Service, of course, operates on an executive agency model. The other sort of model might be a Welsh Government sponsored body that would fulfil that particular function.