Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:05 pm on 21 June 2016.
In terms of the possible routes, I think it’s clear, from many people’s views, and certainly mine, that the blue route is, I would argue, a non-starter for many reasons; some of practicality, others in terms of the population centres that it would travel through. You’ve referred to some of the issues already. As far as the black route is concerned, of course, there are major environmental issues, as well as issues around the predict-and-provide model of building roads. So, with that sort of background, Secretary, could you assure me that this inquiry will be able to look at the metro system in terms of its likely effect on traffic on the M4 and its ability to achieve modal shift? Obviously, if we had park-and-ride facilities that were well placed and effective—I think many people are talking of something like a 20 per cent reduction in volumes of traffic on the M4 coming from modal shift from the metro system. There are other ways of achieving modal shift as well, of course, and ways of better traffic management. So, I wonder whether you could assure me that, in looking at the likely future volumes and levels of traffic, which you referred to in your statement, the inspector will be able to look at the metro and other ways of achieving modal shift in relation to those likely volumes and levels of traffic.
Finally, I wonder whether you could say a little bit about the £500 million early borrowing facility. I realise that the First Minister obviously has a key role in these matters as well, Secretary, but I think it’s vital that if you do come to an informed view as to the best way forward in terms of the traffic problems on the M4, following this inquiry and further consideration, that this early borrowing facility should be available for whatever the Welsh Government considers the best way forward. That isn’t currently the position, and I would argue that, in line with devolution and the Respect agenda, it should be available for whatever the Welsh Government considers as the best solution. Would you support that?