Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:30 pm on 21 June 2016.
Minister, can I warmly welcome both the tone and the content of your statement? I think it’s high time that we as a National Assembly take a far more muscular approach to the way that the broadcasters treat Wales. I know it’s certainly been said in the years since devolution that, when directors general go to meet a Scottish Government, they get a roasting and when they come and meet Welsh Ministers they get a nice cup of tea and a polite response. I think we’ve seen that the result of that is that Scotland’s demands are taken far more seriously than ours. I was very pleased last week when two thirds of Assembly Members wrote a letter to Tony Hall asking for further details on the commitments that he had made.
Your commitment to setting up a new independent media forum is also warmly welcomed and I look forward to hearing the details of that. In my previous incarnation as the director of the Institute of Welsh Affairs I was involved in the media policy group and had, I must confess, some role in putting in freedom of information requests to find out what was going on in the Welsh Government. The IWA, as a very small independent think tank, has had to shoulder the burden of shining a spotlight on this very important area, and I’d like to see Welsh universities take a far greater role in doing that because they are doing work in this area, but it’s not co-ordinated and it’s not properly focused on practical benefits. So, I hope that you’d fully involve all the Welsh university ministers in that forum.
You mentioned the letter that Tony Hall sent to the First Minister, in which he said that he would protect spending for Wales relative to other areas. Of course, that doesn’t take into account that, in the last 10 years, there has been a 25 per cent cut in the spending of the BBC in Wales and a 25 per cent reduction in English language television hours. I should say that figure relates to English language spending, where there’s been a quarter cut. So, it’s welcome that he’ll protect the spending for Wales, and, of course, we must recognise that the BBC has been put through the ringer by the Conservative Government in Westminster and is facing significant cuts. But simply protecting an already diminished budget isn’t good enough, and his letter is full of policy commitment and we’ve heard policy commitments from the BBC before. What we need are operational manifestations of that that make a difference to their audiences, which they have fully recognised have not been served well in recent years by the BBC.
Just finally, to touch on a point that Bethan Jenkins has made and you have made around drama production in Wales, it is, as you say, very welcome that drama production has been moved into Wales, and our creative economy has benefited from that, but the portrayal of Wales in drama to the whole of the UK is also essential and has not been improved by the production of network programmes in Wales. Tony Hall says in his letter to the First Minister that he is considering a drama commissioner for Wales, working as part of the commissioning team to try and nurture and bring along talent because it takes time to develop these commissions. However, unless budgets are associated with that, it could simply be a sop where the BBC’s commissioning person in Cardiff is simply being turned down all the time. So, we do need to put pressure on to make sure that those high-level policy commitments are reflected also in spending decisions. Thank you.