Thank you for that very encouraging answer, there, First—Cabinet Secretary; I will get the hang of this. [Laughter.] There are, of course, many examples of partnership working between local authorities and others, especially health boards, on the delivery of social services, but I think that word ‘delivery’ really says it all, particularly about the way we as a population work to support those whom we seek to help. I think the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015, for all its faults, points very firmly in the direction of co-production, the role of mutuals and other society-based organisations as fertile ground for developing new models of sustainable services, including social services. Do you see these, as the response to the Williams commission report suggests, as a last resort when the public sector fails or do you agree that we need to look ahead to a new balance between state and society to ensure the best fit for public services and the public they serve?