Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:29 pm on 4 October 2016.
I don’t think anybody is suggesting that the national museum will become part of Government. Far from it. This is going to protect the sustainability, the identity and the independence of the museum, but ensure that we bring together the expertise that is necessary to actually realise the potential of many of our institutions. I’ve talked about the increase in visitor numbers to Cadw sites. I’m not satisfied with where they’re at at the moment. It’s been a record year. It’s the best year that we’ve ever seen for Cadw, in part because of those changes that were made, and the determination to attract new people to Cadw sites. But I want to see visitor figures rise still further. Why? Because it’s good for the economy, it’s good for skills training, it’s good for volunteering, it brings communities together. It’s also good for the heritage sector and for education. I do not believe that royal charters should act as a preventative measure when you have willing partners within those institutions that want to come together to bring expertise and resources together for the benefit of all, and that is precisely what the steering group will be considering. And, as I’ve already said, the steering group is made up of senior figures from those national institutions who, thus far, have been part of other groups, led by Baroness Randerson, and who have advocated, so far, coming together on a more collaborative basis.