Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:06 pm on 4 October 2016.
I’d like to thank Dai Lloyd for his questions. It’s clear that neither of us are happy at all with what we’ve learnt this week. But I imagine that motorists who regularly use the M4 are absolutely furious by this further delay—an unnecessary delay and avoidable delay. Had we not chosen to defer the commencement of the M4 public local inquiry to, at the latest, the end of March next year, then, in all likelihood, the inspector would’ve adjourned the inquiry himself.
In terms of the process—and I do think that Members, and, I think, the public, deserve an explanation for this. Let me be clear: I do not think there’s any conspiracy on the part of the UK Government against Wales in this regard, but I do think there is incompetence. What normally happens, what is normal practice, is that we will be informed a year before data are published—a year. That enables us to then scrutinise—because this is an intense, immensely complicated process—the new data. It also affects all English regions, and therefore, Highways England. They are in a similar position to us; they were given just weeks before the data were published. We were given three days’ notice—it’s normally a year—and without consultation on the changes as well. Yes, we received an indication in the spring that there would be an update to TEMPro data, but the Department for Transport failed to engage with us on the scope of the changes.
As I’ve said, for previous revisions to traffic data, the Department for Transport have consulted with us around a year in advance. I do not believe it’s acceptable to give us three days’ notice in full knowledge of the consequences to an entire region of the UK. Normally, the relationship is a healthy one, but, in this instance, something has gone wrong. I wish to know what went wrong. So, I’ll be meeting with the Secretary of State, as my colleague the Cabinet Secretary has already mentioned, next month.
In terms of the relationship that we have with the UK Government, I do believe that we are stronger together as a country. That said, we have to ensure that decisions that are taken by the Department for Transport, or, for that matter, any other department in the UK Government, respect what is happening in Wales, and the time frame that projects—major projects such as the M4—are operating to.
The Member highlights the need for electrification to Swansea—absolutely; I agree entirely. And, again, I would state that, in the past, Wales has not received its fair share in investment through Network Rail. That must change too. And we must have those choice funding programmes within control period 6 agreed to by Network Rail, so that we have a fully integrated system—a system that actually is fit for the twenty-first century, not just in south Wales, but in north Wales and everywhere between as well.