8. Will the First Minister make a statement on waiting times at Ysbyty Glan Clwyd? OAQ(5)00230(FM)

Yes. We expect the health board to continue to improve access to services, including, of course, reducing waiting times across the full range of services.

Does the First Minister think it’s acceptable for someone experiencing chronic knee pain to have to wait 10 months to see a consultant, and what does the First Minister propose to do about it?

She was obviously referring to a constituent who’s contacted her. It’s difficult to comment on an individual case, but, if the constituent wishes, through her, to refer the constituent’s situation to me, I will of course look at it and write back to her.

Against the Welsh Government’s target of 95 per cent, the figures published last week for September show that just 72 per cent of accident and emergency patients were seen in four hours at Wrexham Maelor and 69.7 per cent at Ysbyty Glan Clwyd, with 919 people waiting more than 12 hours in the major A&E departments in north Wales. Having ignored warnings that the closure of minor injury units, the withdrawal of NHS community beds and the shrinking share of the NHS Wales budget going to GP surgeries would lead to this precise outcome, will you now listen—and how—to those concerns in order to address them and reduce this demand for those community-based prevention mechanisms?

This from a representative of the party of Jeremy Hunt. I can say to him that the latest published figures prove that the majority of patients, nearly eight out of 10, are seen, treated, admitted or discharged very quickly and within four hours of their arrival despite, actually, an increase in attendances involving the elderly with complex needs and high-acuity and high-dependent patients. Whilst the achievement of the target has been difficult—that much is true—nevertheless we did see an improvement in the four-hour target in September.

First Minister, would you accept that the reduction in the number of beds in north Wales does contribute to difficulties with waiting times? We’ve seen beds lost in Flint, Llangollen, Blaenau Ffestiniog—there are over 400 fewer beds now in north Wales as compared to 2010. Surely, you would accept that that contributes to the difficulties.

No, I don’t see that because we’re talking about communities where there wasn’t an A&E unit in the first place. So, people travel to the A&Es in an ambulance, and so they will be admitted to that hospital and that’s where the pressure would lie. However, we see that eight out of 10 people who go into the accident and emergency units leave within four hours.