7. 3. Statement: The Landfill Disposals Tax (Wales) Bill

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:54 pm on 29 November 2016.

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Photo of Mr Simon Thomas Mr Simon Thomas Plaid Cymru 3:54, 29 November 2016

(Translated)

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. May we start by putting out a shout out of thanks to John Selwyn Gummer, who introduced the landfill tax in the first place 20 years ago, and recognise that this emerges from the EU’s landfill directive, or the European Community’s landfill directive? There has been a direct benefit to the environment of Wales as a direct result of that. This is the first environmental tax we had in Britain.

I have some specific questions for the Minister. First of all, can he just confirm—I think it’s implicit in what he said—that he isn’t using this Bill to change the environmental policy, and that he is changing the taxation system but there is no intention to change the environmental policy? I think it is implicit in what he said, but I think that needs to be said on the record, as it were.

The second question is on the communities grant. There is a great deal of interest from local communities in this grant scheme, of course. Can the Minister explain why he hasn’t placed the grant scheme in the Bill? Why is he using the Government of Wales Act 2006 instead? To me, it suggests that the Government could withdraw the grant scheme at some point in the future if they so wished, while placing it in the Bill would give the grant scheme a long-term legal and statutory status.

This question of unauthorised waste disposals: can we just be clear that it is not the intention to replace the need to punish or fine companies that undertake this activity, but that it is another way of dealing with it? As the landfill tax at present is actually levied on the operator’s site, how is it going to work by levying the tax on that person who is moving the waste? Those are two different things, aren’t they? You have two different ways of levying the tax now, rather than the simple approach that we had in the past. In light of that, will the Cabinet Secretary, as he is also the Cabinet Secretary for Finance, confirm that Natural Resources Wales has sufficient resources to tackle this problem of unauthorised waste disposals? Many of us would fear that NRW hasn’t quite got to grips with its current responsibilities, never mind having to deal with additional responsibilities.