Neil Hamilton is just so negative. You really need to recognise what we’re trying to achieve with decarbonisation. It’s about security of energy mix, which I am aware the UK Government are also responsible for. It’s about cost and affordability and it’s about decarbonisation. You go on about China and India et cetera; I’m focusing on Wales, and it’s not just about cutting carbon emissions, it’s about the economic benefits for Wales, and it’s about what these new technologies can do for the people of Wales. You talk about energy efficiency; that’s exactly what Arbed and Nest have done. I mentioned in my statement 39,000 homes. You’re quite right about insulation. It’s really important that people’s homes are insulated correctly, and we have assisted with that. You mentioned the National Grid, and I know the First Minister has met recently with the National Grid. We recognise we have to expand. You talked about when wind turbines aren’t turning, and it’s really important that we have the storage there for when that happens, and that is an important part of that.

As you say, you raised in questions with me windfarms and tourism, for instance, and I’ve looked into the visual impact and the research that’s been done in relation to that, not just here in Wales but also in Scotland. It consistently shows that the majority of people support wind development, or they have absolutely no objection at all, and there is no consistent impact, for instance, on house prices. The Scottish Government have done some research on this to show that there’s no impact at all from wind developments.

As I said, I’m passionately in favour of windfarms in the correct place. You don’t want them all together—well, that’s why we have the strategic search areas. We put the large ones together there to save them from being on every mountain top, as you referred to. I don’t see it as a conflict of interest. I know there are issues with Powys County Council. I know they’ve recently consulted on proposals to identify areas for wind and solar developments in their local development plan. I’m very keen that their LDP isn’t found to be unsound, so I’ve made sure that they’ve had support from Government officials through regular meetings, and other forms of assistance going forward. What they need to do, each local planning authority, when they’re looking at wind turbines or windfarms, for instance, they’ve got to look at their overall vision and strategy for renewable energy development in their area to make sure that their international and their national statutory obligations to protect designated areas or species or habitats are observed.