3. Urgent Question: S4C’s New Headquarters in Carmarthen

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:30 pm on 7 February 2017.

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Photo of Angela Burns Angela Burns Conservative 2:30, 7 February 2017

I’m very pleased to hear that, Cabinet Secretary, because what we need, above all else, is clarification over this situation, hopefully followed by a Welsh Government commitment to Yr Egin. This is so important for Carmarthenshire. We have talked about this project now for, it must be well over 18 months, in and out of this Chamber. It’s always enjoyed enormous amounts of support, not just from the politicians sitting around here, but from Carmarthenshire County Council, from S4C themselves and, of course, from a great many businesses. I myself have in my possession a number of letters from major organisations that would like to take part in this project to develop a base for the creative services industry in west Wales.

Over 60 per cent of the projected floor space is already committed, or being earmarked as expressions of interest. We have the possibility of creating 850 full-time jobs throughout this area and an enormous impact on our local economy. Cabinet Secretary, I’m sure you’ll understand the pressures that Carmarthenshire is under. We may well lose a substantial number of jobs in our local call centre. We’ve already lost a substantial number of jobs through the HMRC reconfiguration, and Carmarthenshire is a town that requires these kinds of skilled jobs to go forward.

Whilst I agree that we all want value for money, what I would really like to understand is whether you are still utterly committed to ensuring that there is greater equality throughout Wales for economic growth, because many rural and industrial regions have been left behind, and we don’t want Carmarthenshire to be one of them. I am concerned about the advice note that you’ve received from the creative industries panel, and I wondered if you might be able to expand on that a little, because the chair of that panel is very unambiguous in his evidence to the Welsh Affairs Select Committee. He said, and I do need to quote this:

‘S4C itself should be relocated to North or West Wales. Culturally the organisation would benefit from being closer to its core audience. The area chosen would see a massive economic boost and, as importantly, an economic boost in Welsh.’

I’m not clear, from the understanding I have of the advice that you received, as to whether his opinion appears to have changed. And, if so, Cabinet Secretary, perhaps you could let us know what you think has changed so dramatically.

Finally, I’d like to say that there is, as far as I understand it—and I’ve been in contact with some of the companies based in Swansea—no Welsh-speaking cluster in Swansea, which some of this advice seems to be predicated or based on. I wondered if you might be able to clarify that.

I cannot say it enough: this project would be an absolute lynchpin for Carmarthenshire. And, yes, I’m going to fight for my patch, and I know you would expect me to, but we’ve talked about this. S4C is culturally so important to Carmarthenshire. West Wales is an area that has an enormous creative drive. Some of the greatest painters and greatest poets come from west Wales, and to base a creative service industry, and to drag, to be basic, the jam from Cardiff out along that corridor, so that areas like ours can benefit and can spread out into Ceredigion, into Pembrokeshire, into Carmarthenshire—and we can all benefit from it—would be very important. And I would like to ask you to just give us further elucidation. Thank you.