I thank the Member for her observations. There are many issues. She raises again, as the local Member Dai Rees raised, the issue with regard to Ministry of Justice responses. Can I just say from my experience of HMP Berwyn that around 60 per cent of the employment in the development and construction was of local area personnel, so it was a big industrial boost for that particular area?

In terms of prison reform, there is a Bill going through the Houses of Parliament. It’s not for me to defend the UK administration, but I can say that modern prisons, where they are required under the reform agenda, are much better than our old antiquated prisons that we have scattered around the country. This is a much better way of minimising risk to our communities, also developing family liaison support for Welsh prisoners too, and making sure that we don’t reoffend and end back up with the incarcerating element.

On the issue around women’s prisons, I absolutely agree that we should have a women’s secure unit here for women in Wales. If that is the last point, of course, for incarceration, then I believe it is right and proper that we have facilities in Wales to deliver that.

As both Members have alluded to, there are many questions that remain unanswered by the MOJ. It’s very early stages. I would expect the MOJ, the local authority and the involvement of the Welsh Government to have a full engagement programme with the community. It is only right and proper that that happens.

On your final point on land and land development, the land proposed is currently owned by Welsh Government, but that is not unique to any developer, in terms of private or public sector, where there is a look at the land base across Wales to see where developments may take place. This just happens to be a prison and it happens to be Welsh Government land. While this is a statement being made by the MOJ, it will have to go through the full planning process in order to gain momentum, if momentum at all.