Thank you for the meeting alongside David Melding this morning. As Plaid Cymru spokesperson for housing—although you wouldn’t realise it today—I just wanted to say, in relation to your point about this not being political, I totally agree, but I think that the Government should expect Assembly Members of all parties to be able to scrutinise effectively, and that is part of our role in doing so. The same with the media: I don’t think it’s appropriate for us to take a view on what the media does. I would be assured that if you tell the tenants and the landlords before it gets to the media, then there would be no problem with them finding out in that way. In fact, I would assume that you would be able to speak to everybody involved before any of the media gets to speak to tenants.

I wanted to ask, with regard to the relationship that you have with the fire service—you’ve indicated that they have put mitigating measures in place, such as fire marshals and so forth. I want to be assured from you, in writing, possibly, whether they’ve said that they are comfortable with the current setup, therefore comfortable with the fact that the cladding is not being removed, but the mitigating measures that they’re putting in place instead are going to be robust enough to ensure that tenants are safe if there is a situation of risk at those flats. I think we all need to be assured of that here today.

With regard to fire safety also, I need to be assured that there’s capacity within the system for the fire and rescue service to be able to deal with this. So, for example, if the UK panel advises that interim measures are needed on the cladding, do we have enough capacity in the system here for those authorities to take forward action? You hinted at the fact that the UK advisory panel would be potentially recommending whole-system testing, rather than sample testing of cladding. Can you clarify what that means in practice, and will you be going ahead with such testing here in Wales, or will it not be for you to decide, but they will be part of a sampling process across the UK?

I thank you for the information on keeping us updated with other bodies. I’m wanting to understand how you’re going to collate all of the information from the Cabinet Secretary for health, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and the Cabinet Secretary for economy, so that AMs can be assured that all that information is going to a central location. I have been told by some Plaid Cymru AMs that they’re finding it difficult to find out information from Hywel Dda health board as to what’s happening with the testing that they’ve carried forth on their systems. If we could get some clarification, that would be good.

You said that you’re going to be issuing guidance to local authorities in relation to private landlords. Are you satisfied this is enough, and what powers do you have to intervene should it not be something that they are receptive towards?

With regard to—my final question—building regulations, if the UK advisory panel does confirm that testing of cladding is conducted to a higher safety requirement than current Welsh building and fire safety regulations require, do you agree that this could mean taking a larger look at building and fire safety regulations? How will you decide whether or not to take a closer look at that aspect of the situation? I understand from the new Government of Wales Act that you will have powers over building regulations as a Government in future, apart from, sadly, the Crown Estate, which will include airports, will include shipping ports and will include nuclear power stations—they will be reserved matters. So, how are you going to be able to regulate or to legislate in this area if you don’t have all the tools that you may need in future?