Thank you, Mike, for your kind remarks. And then you seek to lead me right down into a western bog, I think, somewhere near to your constituency. It is not for Ministers to make decisions about listing. It is not for Ministers to make decisions about what local authorities should do in this area either. I think we need to look for partnerships.

I'm not going to talk about the planning aspects of your question because, clearly, I am not responsible, thank goodness, for planning matters.

But as far as Cadw is concerned, it has been mandated through this decision to work in partnership with those other institutions that are part of Government and, in particular, to work regionally with local government. And that is what we are looking for. It is a way in which marketing plans link the tourist potential as well as the conservation interest with the role of the institution, such as Cadw, to develop further. Therefore, I am going to disappoint you by not expressing a view on matters that are without my portfolio.