Point of Order

– in the Senedd at 7:36 pm on 29 November 2017.

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Photo of Hefin David Hefin David Labour

It is with some regret, Llywydd, that I raise this point of order. During a debate earlier, the leader of the opposition, from a sedentary position, said to another Member, 'You have taken the shilling.' Would you rule that that is not in order, in particular with reference to Standing Orders 13.9(iv) and 13.9(v)? And, if so, would you give the Member the opportunity to both withdraw and apologise for that remark?

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru 7:37, 29 November 2017

It is now clear to me that that accusation was made earlier, although I didn't hear it myself, and, helpfully, the leader of the opposition has clarified that, and the BBC, this afternoon. Questioning the integrity of Assembly Members is not appropriate, and Assembly Members in this Chamber vote without fear or favour. It may be that the leader of the opposition wants to clarify the accusation he sought to make, and if that was misinterpreted in any way. 

Photo of Andrew RT Davies Andrew RT Davies Conservative

Thank you, Presiding Officer. I certainly haven't given any clarification this afternoon, because I haven't given any interviews at all, although I see the BBC reporting some line. I've said my comments in my contribution to the debate today, and I stand by the comments that I made in the debate.

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru 7:38, 29 November 2017

I think you may wish to reflect on the fact that you are certainly reported as having said that your accusation referred to a Member who was taking absolutely no part at all in the debate at the time, rather than the Member you did refer to when seeking to clarify later on in that debate. Given the nature of the debate we held this afternoon, I ask you to think again, and we will discuss this outside of this Chamber. And if we need to, we will bring it back to the Chamber. We will move on to a vote now, but these matters will need to be addressed later on. 

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru

(Translated)

That brings us to voting time. And unless three Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will proceed directly to voting time.