This, of course, is about a very particular issue, whether there should be a prison in a specific place. What I think a citizen's assembly could do—and at the moment it would have to be and England and Wales one, but at some point we may have penal policy devolved here—I would ask them, 'Should we have an imprisonment pattern that's nearer the European model or our current one where we imprison between two and three times the number of people needed for public protection or protection from serious theft?' That's the sort of question. Because if that's answered in a particular way, you wouldn't need a superprison in the first place.