A pleasure to follow David Rowlands. I was encouraged to hear about his morning routine from 5:15 to 6:30, I assume that's his extensive personal grooming programme, and then the two-and-a-half-hour period before he is able to start work, and the 11-and-a-half-hour day before he's able to go home.

So, following on from Lee Waters, who was referring, I think, to being weepy and despairing. I don't see this as the binary issue, I think, that Lee does. I think there is an ability to improve the environment, at least in some locations, through road investments. The example David Rowlands gave of Rover Way, if that were improved and we were able to have a dual carriageway going all the way around Cardiff as a ring road, that would greatly reduce the amount of congestion and also the amount of pollution for areas like Newport Road, which I know that Jenny Rathbone has spoken about previously.