8. Debate on the Children, Young People and Education Committee Report: 'Flying Start: Outreach'

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:54 pm on 23 May 2018.

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Photo of Rhianon Passmore Rhianon Passmore Labour 6:54, 23 May 2018

I'd like to thank the Chair, Lynne Neagle, and the Children, Young People and Education Committee for undertaking a valuable piece of work and shining a light on this aspect of the Flying Start programme. I also note with interest the response from the Welsh Government. One of the driving forces for being in politics, I would hope, for everybody in this room, is to help in whatever way to eradicate poverty within our communities, however much worsened this has been through the ongoing UK austerity agenda. We know that Flying Start and its groundbreaking outreach programme makes a vital contribution to the Welsh Labour Government's national strategy 'Prosperity for All', which strongly identifies the early years as a priority area. I do wholeheartedly welcome the internationally recognised good practice of Flying Start, both in Islwyn, where I've seen the difference on the ground in the council estate that I live in, and throughout Wales, and I welcome the specific work of the committee on this aspect of the programme. 

Flying Start, as we know, is currently being delivered to over 37,000 children under four years of age living in some of the most deprived areas of Wales via a place-based mechanism. That equates to around 25 per cent of all children under the age of four in Wales. It is right that a place-based approach, with flexibility around lower super-output areas, which does take into account sub-ward level data, is used around the WIMD data. So, will the Cabinet Secretary expand on how Welsh Government can effectively offer a sensible level of monitoring of the programme, without adding burdensome bureaucracy? Because this programme has had clear discernable outcomes for families in poverty, and there is often an inclination to seek immediate hard outcomes with such programmes, and it's always difficult to measure the softer outcomes of self-esteem and confidence—often not in place for many years to come. 

So, I do believe, to speak across the Chamber, if I may, that it is right to ask the parents, and also to write to the Welsh Government seeking to reduce the reporting burden on local authorities, and that Welsh Government has reduced and streamlined, as has been asked for many times with this programme, and that—[Interruption.] I haven't got time, unfortunately. This was widely welcomed and called for during this programme roll-out. So, finally, can the Cabinet Secretary then outline how we can work smarter to achieve even more in this groundbreaking measure, alongside our partners in local government, without adding to their already data-heavy workload, but better targeting all those in need across Wales?