Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:30 pm on 23 May 2018.
Thank you for giving way. Within the flexibility that's currently there, it's interesting to note that there are places like Swansea that are targeting it on particular groups outside of the Flying Start areas, such as the Traveller community and so on. The difficulty with monitoring the effectiveness is that the longitudinal data that you look for to see the lifelong outcomes—how do you do that? How do we come back in six months or 12 months? But it is an interesting area, because some of the benefits of these early interventions, wraparound interventions with families that most need it, may not be seen until they're in their teenage years, in their 20s and their life opportunities have been opened up there. That's the challenge, and I know he understands that.