Llywydd, what would be most insulting would be to finish a consultation yesterday and inform you of the decision today, without considering any of the representations made to us over the past months. That would be most insulting to those people who have participated in this discussion. But may I make this quite clear? I met with Professor Prowle last week, and I had a long conversation with him, and I actually saw his presentation, when he discussed the kinds of figures that the Member has alluded to today. But may I tell you this? He finished his presentation by saying that nine councils would be preferable and better for Wales.