Well, let us move on from the question of cost for the time being, and turn to one of the questions I asked you when you were appointed as Cabinet Secretary for local government. That question was what kind of style you were going to adopt in dealing with local government. It may be true that we haven’t seen quite the level of argument and contention in the media between yourself and local authorities, but the stark disagreements continue, and the truth is that there isn’t support from local councils for the Green Paper proposals.

Debbie Wilcox, as you well know, has said that any sensible estimate would show that council mergers wouldn’t save money. 'Taking unnecessary attention', as the leader of Caerphilly put it, and yesterday, as we heard, we had a formal response from Denbighshire County Council, which is one of the few councils that was willing to merge during the last Assembly term, and Denbighshire noted that there isn’t a credible case for change that has been made in the White Paper. When you started in this role, you said that it was time to have a new relationship with local government. Was creating total disagreement between Government and local authorities what you had in mind?