Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:44 pm on 26 September 2018.
I’m sure you do, in your position, have to make difficult choices, but would you agree with me that, aside from whether it is right to reform the services in the way you’re proposing or not, there is a bigger issue that was raised by Neil Hamilton amongst others—that you’re not carrying people along with this process, hence we have this petition, which has been given in with all of these signatures, hence we're having this debate today? In south-east Wales, the area I represent, we’ve got Gwent Clinical Futures, which has virtually unanimous support across Gwent, without these sorts of complaints. So, surely, even if you think you're right with the decisions you're taking, the health board is taking, what has gone wrong with this process and why are so many people not trusting your Government?