Well, this isn't a choice that the Government is making. The broad choice is for us to reform or not. I'm clear that our health and care system needs reform. The parliamentary review told all of us our health and care system needs reform. Staying as we are is not fit for the future. In Gwent I made a decision to enable a new hospital to be built at the centre of that reformed system of health and care. There are different conversations taking place in different parts of Wales. You can't simply impose the way people do it in one part of the country on another. But key to this all has to be engaging our staff and engaging the public. We need to be honest enough to say that people won't necessarily all agree at the end of it, but a decision still needs to be made.

I'll take Angela's intervention and then I'll move on and make more progress.